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July 2nd, 2007

Outrage Fatigue @ 07:17 pm

Current Mood: cynical cynical

ANNNNNND the president commutes Scooter Libby's sentence.

A couple of years ago, I believe, the Onion had an article on "Outrage Fatigue."

I think I reached that point about twelve months ago.

Pass the Vodka. Preferrably Altai. I'm looking at YOU, my Finnish friends.

Seriously. I've pretty much had it.

Maybe some Jameson...?

Buddies from Cork? I'm lookin' at YOU now...
 
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From:bajingo
Date:July 3rd, 2007 12:23 am (UTC)
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I've got some Stoli in the freezer, if you end up having to slum. I wanted to feel outrage over this, but I just can't. It's like all the anger I've had with the Bush administration got to such a high level that it snapped something in my brain. I don't know if that's good, or bad.
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From:ls56
Date:July 3rd, 2007 12:37 am (UTC)
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I <3 your icon.
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From:bajingo
Date:July 3rd, 2007 12:46 am (UTC)
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Thank you. I just made it last night. I need more pics of Grant.


For icon making! I swear!
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From:beezelbubbles
Date:July 3rd, 2007 01:13 am (UTC)
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Riiiiight.... for icon purposes. Wink wink, nudge nudge.
And yeah, I've hit the brain snappage point. Now I'm just like, "Oh... really? Huh." and then I look at immigration laws for New Zealand and Canada some more.
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From:mere_bystander
Date:July 3rd, 2007 12:33 am (UTC)
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I'm to the point that I don't even care about what type of alcohol it is -- anything will do...

From:hypogonadisme
Date:July 3rd, 2007 12:37 am (UTC)
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Good ol' George "Bleeding Ulcer" Bush! :)
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From:hackard
Date:July 3rd, 2007 12:40 am (UTC)
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All I want is a bottle of Patron Silver, a couple of limes, and hankies to cry into.
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From:righteousfist
Date:July 3rd, 2007 12:41 am (UTC)
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If I were in the Bush White House, I would start killing hobos for fun. It's not like anything would actually HAPPEN to me after all, you know?
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From:smoemeth
Date:July 3rd, 2007 02:29 am (UTC)
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I'm sure they are killing hobos for fun. The press just isn't allowed to report it. :P
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From:hexar_le_saipe
Date:July 3rd, 2007 02:57 am (UTC)
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I'm pretty sure that the reporter who broke the story about Cheney shooting his friend in the face is in Guantanamo Bay right now.

/Icon love!
/It's a streetlight!
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From:smoemeth
Date:July 3rd, 2007 03:04 am (UTC)
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/its not a streetlight i swear its from outer space lolz ;>
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From:zenfrodo
Date:July 4th, 2007 01:20 am (UTC)
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Alien? Yup. It's a Streetlight People...living just to find emulsion...
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From:ebenbrooks
Date:July 3rd, 2007 12:58 am (UTC)
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I have to say, it is completely, utterly, bogglingly unsurprising...
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From:sandchigger
Date:July 3rd, 2007 01:05 am (UTC)
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Seriously? Noone else is surprised by this? I'd have bet Scooter'd receive a full pardon, none of this commutation stuff.
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From:botgrrrl
Date:July 3rd, 2007 01:11 am (UTC)
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Oh, he'll be pardoned alright. On the last day of Bush's term. If he did it now, he wouldn't get anything else out of Congress.
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From:sandchigger
Date:July 3rd, 2007 01:14 am (UTC)
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Yeah, good point. There's still time. Far, far, FAR too much time...
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From:wire_mother
Date:July 3rd, 2007 02:49 am (UTC)
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if he's fully pardoned, that waives his fifth amendment rights. this way, he can still avoid testifying about any skullduggery in the administration, since he's still, technically, fighting the fine in appeals and any such testimony might potentially be used to incriminate him.
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From:sneezythesquid
Date:July 3rd, 2007 06:03 am (UTC)
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Wow, I hadn't thought of that bit. Adds a whole new layer of scum to this pond.
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From:quaryn_dk
Date:July 3rd, 2007 07:03 am (UTC)
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Well put.
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From:wire_mother
Date:July 3rd, 2007 09:11 pm (UTC)
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to me, the most frustrating thing about this is that it shows that the sitting administration may really be clever, but that it refuses to use its cleverness for any other reason than to gain and maintain power.
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From:ottietav
Date:July 3rd, 2007 07:48 am (UTC)
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Not to mention that he'll probably have no problem having someone pay off the fine for him.
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From:phoenix_hawk
Date:July 3rd, 2007 02:51 am (UTC)

There's a reason he didn't get pardoned...

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I haven't finished law school, but there's several law blogs out there commenting on the fine difference between commuting and pardoning. One of the bigger ones is that if Scooter was pardoned, he'd lose his 5th amendment priviledges (can't self incriminate against something there's no legal consequence for soing). I don't fully get why this is the case, but apparently mere commuting does not remove 5th amendment protection, as there is still the possibility of further incrimination.

It's a smart move, in that Bush looks like he still believes some punishment is deserved, yet deftly maneuvers into CYA.

There's several blogs covering this, http://www.firedoglake.com/ is one of the most prominent ones.
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From:spotweld
Date:July 3rd, 2007 01:18 am (UTC)
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If this doesn't drop his approval below the Nixon record, then nothing will.
(rum and coke at the moment)
Speaking of Vodka, ever tried Tito's? (To follow the rum and coke)
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From:muskrat_john
Date:July 3rd, 2007 01:24 am (UTC)
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Never tried Tito's.

Texan, huh? Now I'm interested...
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From:spotweld
Date:July 3rd, 2007 01:28 am (UTC)
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A friend introduced me to it when I was in Dallas for A-kon.
Not sure if it's what you'd call "smooth", but it's the first vodka I actually like straight.
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From:k_kinnison
Date:July 3rd, 2007 01:59 am (UTC)
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I have some Death's Pass vodka from Washington Island in wisconsin
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From:quaryn_dk
Date:July 3rd, 2007 07:08 am (UTC)
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Ah, would that I had some of that awesome pepper vodka the Russians were handing out at the Texans' room party at WorldCon '05. It was drastically better than the Finlandia the Finns were serving next door.

After I saw Fahrenheit 9/11, I bought a bottle of Cuba Caramel vodka (which I can readily drink state) and was determined to drink until I forgot what country I'm from.
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From:quaryn_dk
Date:July 3rd, 2007 02:03 pm (UTC)
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Er, that should be straight, not state. Shouldn't write comments before coffee...
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From:feren
Date:July 3rd, 2007 01:34 am (UTC)

May I suggest...

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... gin. Or, if you're not about the pine trees in your mouth, you can stay with vodka. Really all that matters is that you indulge in a clear, high-tension booze.

Yes, there is rage fatigue. I know from first-hand experience, and Cheb can vouch.
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From:k_kinnison
Date:July 3rd, 2007 01:56 am (UTC)
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can someone please tell me what the president cannot do without being punished? I know what he is suppose to not do, or be able to do.
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From:quaryn_dk
Date:July 3rd, 2007 07:12 am (UTC)
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I'm just waiting for him to wander down to the National Archives, break open the glass case, and literally piss on the Constitution. Since he's been figuratively pissing on it so much the last six years without getting punished, I'd wager the most they'd do is fine him for indecent exposure.
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From:tagryn
Date:July 3rd, 2007 12:41 pm (UTC)
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The more depressing thing for me is that a lot of the stuff that the current Administration is doing had their precedents set back when Clinton was running things. There's no reason to believe that merely changing the parties in office will solve anything, as both parties have had their swing at power already and shown the same tendencies.
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From:whisper_jeff
Date:July 3rd, 2007 02:09 am (UTC)
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I seriously do not get it. I cannot, for the life of me, fathom how Bush is still in power. At what point do people say enough is enough and hold him accountable for his egregious abuses of power? Previously, I always commented that certain things that Canadian politicians would pull would never fly in the states - I'd always comment that Americans would be up in arms if their politicians ever tried to pull some bullshit like that. Apparently I was wrong...

Just boggles my mind...
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From:sneezythesquid
Date:July 3rd, 2007 06:06 am (UTC)
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I seriously do not get it. I cannot, for the life of me, fathom how Bush is still in power

Because for a long time the Republicans were in charge of oversight in Congress, and now the Democrats refuse to grow a spine and do the job. They're still scared of being labled "weak on 'fill in the blank'" and act as if Bush still had Regan numbers.
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From:gamingkitty
Date:July 3rd, 2007 10:08 pm (UTC)
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There are times I think the British parliamentary system (where you can boot the government out of power any time you can pull the needed votes) has an advantage over the US system (where you're pretty much stuck with the guy who won for the full term). This is one of those times.

My understanding, though, is that the decision to commute doesn't step over the line on what the president is legally empowered to do. While I expect his approval rating to drop yet again, there isn't anything here that we can legally boot him out of office for.
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From:smoemeth
Date:July 3rd, 2007 02:31 am (UTC)
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I hit the "outrage fatigue" point the day after the last Presidential election.

I, too, am only surprised that it wasn't a full pardon ... and that it took this long.

Really, *nothing* this administration does can possibly surprise me any more. I've been waiting for the tanks to start rolling in the streets since 9/12/01.
From:zonker1984
Date:July 3rd, 2007 02:47 am (UTC)
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I feel your pain. I think that someone in Madison should start an angry liberal support group or something. We could all get together and drink and bitch.
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From:hexar_le_saipe
Date:July 3rd, 2007 02:59 am (UTC)
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Porn actresses have a more fully developed sense of shame than our Fearless Leader.

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From:sorchar
Date:July 3rd, 2007 03:17 am (UTC)
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Yeah. At this point it's more like annoyance mixed with despair. How is this man still president?
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From:merseine
Date:July 3rd, 2007 03:26 am (UTC)
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On the positive side of things, with a felony conviction, Libby won't be able to cast a vote in any election every again.

Yay.

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From:spkelley
Date:July 3rd, 2007 03:45 am (UTC)
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Village idiot? I wish I could say the country idiot was lost...but I can't.
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From:lllvis
Date:July 3rd, 2007 03:51 am (UTC)
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Well, hardly surprising, given the caliber of politicians we have these days. All this does is put Bush down there with Clinton who did much the same thing, and that doesn't say much for either.
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From:speaks
Date:July 3rd, 2007 11:57 am (UTC)
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But... But... CLINTON!

That excuse is tired, weak, and beneath dignifying with any further bandwidth you pathetic troll.
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From:lllvis
Date:July 3rd, 2007 12:09 pm (UTC)
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Well, ok then. Perhaps it puts him UP there with Clinton, Ford, Nixon, and a bevy of others.

Does that make it any better?!?
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From:speaks
Date:July 3rd, 2007 12:40 pm (UTC)
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No.

Actions should be judged on their own merits, rather than justifying it because "other people do it."
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From:lllvis
Date:July 3rd, 2007 12:51 pm (UTC)
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True. I had no intention of defending it or justifying, only mentioning to support the theme that of relatively late we haven't exactly had any high quality Presidents in quite awhile. In that so many have made similar despicable acts, it puts them all in the same (trash) pile. I just chose to compare it to similar actions by his most recent predecessor, but certainly there are plenty others to make the same comparison with.
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From:lllvis
Date:July 3rd, 2007 03:53 am (UTC)
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OH, and I have most of a bottle of Johnny Walker BLUE label I'd be happy to share...!
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From:georgmi
Date:July 3rd, 2007 03:58 am (UTC)
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I saw a bumper sticker recently that said, "If you're not OUTRAGED, you're not paying attention!"

To which I can only respond, if you still have energy left to be outraged, you haven't been paying attention long enough.

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